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Posted jolemc on 20 March 2013 - 04:17 PM
Posted BJMcG on 05 February 2013 - 04:20 AM
When I bought my AT200 I thought it was great that Peavey was offering this technology at a price the average working man could afford, even if the guitar itself was, shall we say, modestly appointed.
It looks like Antares has decided instead to go for the doctor and lawyer market.
Frankly I was expecting the basic package to be free- certainly not anywhere remotely close to $99.
Hopefully they will at least give us a free download that will allow us to boost the output to a typical level.
Posted guitarbuy on 13 February 2013 - 08:20 AM
Posted marco on 09 January 2013 - 08:48 PM
Posted bizjer on 20 February 2014 - 09:03 PM
Posted tysims800 on 27 December 2012 - 05:03 PM
Posted marco on 19 November 2012 - 07:52 PM
How does this work? For purposes of explanation, let us assume your low E string is perfectly tuned. Hold down the string at fret two while performing a String Tune. The computer measures the string is one whole step sharp, and lowers its pitch accordingly. Now, when you play the open string, you get a D and you now have drop D tuning.
Not exactly. In fact when you press down behind the fret, and depending how hard you press, the computer sees the string is one whole step plus a few cents sharp. The computer can't tell the difference between a slightly out-of-tune string and the effect of this fingering error, so now, when you play the open string, you get a drop D tuning with the D slightly flat.
In most cases, the amount of flatness is inaudible during real-world playing, but will show up if measured by a very accurate (and properly calibrated) tuner. You can minimize or eliminate the effect in one of these ways:
• To minimize the flatness when creating an alternate tuning by special fingering, finger each note right on the appropriate fret and apply the minimum amount of finger pressure necessary to sound the desired note.
• Upgrade to one of the Software Feature Packs. Selecting any of the alternate tunings available in the feature packs will always result in perfectly tuned strings.
Posted GumbyAZ on 28 February 2013 - 02:23 PM
Is this possible - I mean how does the Antares firmware know
that the default tuning is already dropped? This might apply to other
types of string instruments that don't conform to a standard tuning.
Posted biterope on 27 February 2013 - 06:51 PM
Also, any idea when they might be released?
Posted none on 07 February 2013 - 02:36 AM
- Skip the feature packs and go a la carte. Especially for pickup modeling. I want the acoustic, p90, and tele sounds because I don't have guitars that match them. I might like the bass model since I could have a bass with perfect intonation. I don't want to pay $300 to get them, though.
Your current pricing model forces everyone to buy a pack to get the sounds they want, even if they don't want the other sounds. Let them buy them one by one. If you want to keep feature packs, make them available at a discounted rate vs buying all individual models.
- Make alternate tunings and virtual capos included in the purchase price or in a cheap upgrade.
You sell it on the videos as a feature, then when a customer gets to the site they realize they have to pay $199 to get a virtual capo more than a whole step up or down. Or $299 to get double drop D. Either include them now as a reward for the early adopters who are taking a risk on new technology, or sell them all once for no more than $49. Hopefully no more $29. They're merely alternate tunings - people aren't going to feel the same way about them as they would for a pickup model - they know it's not the same degree of work required to make double drop D available as it is to model a P90 pickup.
- Put more model demos up online. Lots of them. Videos and soundcloud examples.
If I want to find out what a model sounds like now, I go to your model video and get a five second riff. Not really helpful - especially when you want me to pay $199 for the privilege. And I'm guessing it's non-refundable, too.
You don't need glitzy videos with the roland-esque "you can be a rockstar with our product" vibe. Skip the voiceovers, dramatic lighting and wind machines. Give me every electric model clean, with a little crunch, and overdriven. Keep the chorus and delay out of the equation - just the guitar, amp, and a little reverb.
- Hurry up with the floorboard model.
I had a guitar that looked a bit like the red AT-200. It was a very nice Hamer. But it was 1989. And it had a tremolo.
I don't want to buy a guitar I don't want to look at. I don't want to buy a guitar with unproven technology that I may have to send back. Shipping guitars for service is expensive and difficult. Shipping a floorboard for service is easy.
- Solicit feedback on your floorboard before you introduce it.
Find out what your customers want and need instead of telling them what they need. Maybe it's too late for the hardware side of things, but software could still be tweaked so it matches customer needs at the time of launch, instead of launching with incomplete features and clumsy implementations that turn people off.
I'm sure there are some people at antares wondering why everyone is complaining about the price when the AT200+feature packs are cheaper than a JTV or a roland ready strat, but you're not competing on the same ground yet. You have an unproven package that has experienced bugs at launch, packaged in a guitar with limited appeal, supported by videos that don't adequately explain the features and benefits of your technology. You also are going against the perception of guitarists that Antares / Autotune = T-Pain and untalented singers, or that Autotune for Guitar is a gimmick for people who are too stupid or too lazy to tune their guitars, when it's capable of much more than that.
Posted Clansfolk on 04 November 2012 - 01:18 PM
I presume (if the reports are correct) that this would be a software glitch and easily corrected by a software update?
I would hate to have waited (and still waiting) for so long only to have the product recalled
your comments would be gratefully received...
the software/tuning has one major flaw that I can't figure out. It is always flat. For example, if I bar the second fret I should be in D tuning, one step down from standard, right? Well, according to my tuner all strings are a little flat from that. They are perfectly in tune with each other, and all up and down the neck as advertised. But, if I am playing with a keyboardist/bassist/recording I need to be in perfect tune with them also, not just myself. So it's all kind of pointless.
OK well I did just check one of our at 200's dropped a step against a tuner (Boss, built into JS-10 E-band) and the auto tuned output measured quite flat... I dunno what to say. Ready for software Rev 1.1????
Posted luca9583 on 28 January 2013 - 01:00 PM
-In sub bass tuning, is the whole instrument's tuning shifted down or can individual strings only be shifted down?
-Are custom tunings available to expand on the guitar/bass split mode? For example, could you tune the lowest 3 string like the lowest 3 strings on a 5 string bass with a low B, but have standard guitar tuning on the top 3 strings?
Posted bamman on 05 May 2013 - 09:00 PM
From Our Research Team: MIDI I/O for Your AT-200!
Peavey's AT-200 MIDI Update Cable lets you connect your AT-200 Auto-Tune guitar to your computer without the optional AT-200B Breakout Box. The AT-200 MIDI Update Cable is incredibly easy to use. One end features an 8-pin DIN connection that matches the data jack on your AT-200 Auto-Tune guitar. On the other end, there's a MIDI in and a MIDI out connection. Just hook these up to your standard MIDI interface, and you're good to go. Adding new features to your AT-200 guitar is super easy with a Peavey AT-200 MIDI Update Cable from Sweetwater.
To bad they didn't add a a third leg to the cable that's wired to the power and audio signal pins on the 8-pin MIDI side. Connect it to a quality 9v pedalboard-type power supply you probably already own and you'd have an inexpensive cable version of the breakout box.
Posted boloulu on 17 April 2013 - 03:29 AM
Posted zeusdaddy on 26 March 2013 - 03:28 PM
Posted none on 07 November 2012 - 06:03 PM
Will pickup models be available to purchase on an individual basis? There are five total models I'm interested, but to get the bass model, it looks like I have to buy the complete pack.
Will these upgrades be transferable? I may be interested if I can buy the peavey at200 now since it's the only thing avaible, but in the future I'd rather have a guitar of my choosing with either the onboard gear or the floorboard. If I do that, I'd want to be able to transfer any models I've purchased over to my new main setup.
Posted zzzang on 04 November 2012 - 05:03 PM
A user has posted some soundclips to demonstrate this.
Posted JoaoBraga on 09 January 2013 - 11:02 PM
It's been said it is still too soon for the floor pedal but what about the luthier custom kits and the software feature packs?
Posted none on 24 November 2012 - 11:26 PM
Posted Ben Jammin' on 01 February 2013 - 12:57 AM
I waited nearly a whole year for the guitar, now I need the accessory box, or I need to buy some stock in Energizer or Duracell.
These AA batteries are eatin' me up!.